Mediums / Psychics : Challenge from Christine Hamlett, Red Cloud Is Real Ask Jackie Dennison Koshnick
An email I received from Christine stated:
"My partner in rescue mediums has a indian guide called red cloud YES THE red cloud you can check him up he is quite famous ..She has quite alot of information about him on her site Feathers Academy he is a real person you can check him up.."
THE Red Cloud? Even though she asked me not to contact her again, I had to reply:
By Meercat
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"As a matter of interest, the 'famous' Red Cloud was in fact Sioux, the Oglala Lakota and no connection to Takelma Tribe. I can find no reference to anyone in the Takelma being called Red Cloud."
Her reply?:
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Maybe you should tell jackie that not me .He is her 1st nations guide not mine and she has quite alot of information about him on her site and connects the famous red cloud as one and the same man no matter what tribe ....she even has pictures of the famous red cloud on her site I would be interested to see what she would have to say to you ...
you should take a look at Feathers academy spirit guides there is another medium you can attack ..But be careful she knows alot about red cloud and you may end up wrong.....
sarcasm suits you keep it up
Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit, but wit nonetheless...
A further email furnished me with several screens shots of the Feathers Academy website with the "quite a lot of information on him" on it, and a final comment from Christine:
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here you are take her on ..if you dare ,..
Okay then.
Firstly I had a proper look at The Feather Academy website www.feathersmediums.co.uk to have a butchers at this "lots of information" that 'Medium' Jackie Dennison Koshnick has about her 'guide'.
Here it is:
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"Red Cloud: Jackie also works with a Native American Indian, Red Cloud, from the Takelma Tribe, part of the Rogue River Indians. Red Cloud introduced himself in the early part of 2005 and spoke of wonderful work that Jackie would be involved with across the water."
Yep, that's certainly a wealth of information. As I have already stated, I can find no reference to a 'Red Cloud' being in the Takelma Tribe, so I'm guessing this was just a little known individual, if he existed at all.
But hang on, didn't Christine say he was THE Red Cloud he is "quite famous" and "a real person I can check up on". I had better take a look at the picture that Jackie has of him. Well, its a drawing actually:

Which appears to be a reproduction of this photo:

See?

So at least we know that this 'Guide' was a real person as Jackie states on her site that this is a drawing of him.. But who is it? Well, the photo is from a poster of THE Red Cloud, you know, the famous one:

Okay, so we have established that Jackie Dennison Koshnick has THE Red Cloud, Makhpiya Luta (1822-1909) as her 'Spirit Guide'. What does Jackie say about him again?
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"from the Takelma Tribe, part of the Rogue River Indians"
The Takelma Tribe were from Oregon, now, what the Hell would a Sioux War Leader like Red Cloud be doing in Oregan?
Yes, Red Cloud was Oglala Lakota, born in Nabraska, the Lakota Territory is predominantly Dakota. Red Cloud was NEVER part of the Takelma Tribe, and judging by the distance between Dakota and Oregon, there's a good chance he never even 'bumped into them' during his life either.
Once again, a Mediums claims are quite easily debunked with just a little research. Now, it makes you wonder as to the 'abilities' of these Mediums if they can't even get the background of their own 'guides' correct. If they can't do that, what chance have they of giving a sitter a reading about their relatives?
There you go Christine, it seems Jackie's 'guide' is as genuine as yours. Although I have to question your reasons for wanting me to 'take her on'.
Meercat
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| codger | Posted: 2008/3/28 9:43 Updated: 2008/3/28 15:37 |
Just popping in ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/11/19 From: Posts: 12 |
You nasty cynical old meercat you.
It's quite obvious that Red Cloud was a mystic shaman who thought nothing of astrally travelling from Nebraska to Oregon to South Dakota in a single night. So there. What the hell is a "rescue medium" anyway? |
| ray | Posted: 2008/3/28 14:26 Updated: 2008/3/28 15:37 |
Not too shy to talk ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/10/12 From: Dartford Posts: 35 |
Well bearing in mind that these spirit guides can't even identify the relative of "one who has crossed" when they're in the audience in front of them without help, why is anyone surprised that they don't know where they lived?
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| Mokujin | Posted: 2008/3/29 15:31 Updated: 2008/3/29 20:30 |
Just popping in ![]() ![]() Joined: 2008/3/26 From: Posts: 3 |
Yes...well, I mean take it easy on her, Meercat.
One time, I ate a supper consisting totally of chili dogs & sauerkraut, and was visited by the ancient spirit "Green Cloud"... I know it was him, and he must have 'croseed over', because he smelled terribly... |
| Tanydon | Posted: 2008/3/30 8:47 Updated: 2008/3/31 8:37 |
Just can't stay away ![]() ![]() Joined: 2007/6/22 From: Radcliffe. Posts: 85 |
It would appear that de-bunking spirit mediums is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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| BillHicks | Posted: 2008/3/31 7:16 Updated: 2008/3/31 8:08 |
Just popping in ![]() ![]() Joined: 2008/3/5 From: Central Scotland Posts: 12 |
Green Cloud !! LOL
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| meercat | Posted: 2008/4/24 6:19 Updated: 2008/4/25 6:34 |
Just can't stay away ![]() ![]() Joined: 2006/12/2 From: Posts: 77 |
It appears it's not THE Red Cloud after all... regardless of the drawing of him on her website. Se has now amended it to read:
Quote: Jackie also works with a Native American Indian, Red Cloud, from the Takelma Tribe, part of the Rogue River Indians (not to be confused with the Sioux Chief) Ah.. I see, it's ANOTHER Red Cloud... the drawing of THE Red Cloud must be purely for 'illustration purposes' or something. Hope you didn't hurt yourself when your own Spirit Guide tripped you up Jackie?...... |
| lyndonius | Posted: 2008/5/1 12:44 Updated: 2008/5/1 13:36 |
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I once encountered the 'Great Stinking Cloud' after eating copious amounts of baked beans; any connection? This spirit guide very real; guiding me to open a window.
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